Based on:
1. Reversing Hermon: The Forgotten Mission of Jesus Christ
2. The Unseen Realm: Recovering the Supernatural Worldview of the Bible
The Sin of the Watchers and Human Depravity
HIGHLIGHT: The highlight in bolded, underlined green text above is a very critical thought. It flies in the face of 1,700 years of church traditions, doctrines, dogmas, thinking, and other trash that we all have been raised with and taught as "truth".
QUESTION: What does this say about what we've been taught overall?
ANSWER?: Could it be that we need to adopt a position of being highly suspicious of everything we've been taught - tearing it down to the frame and building it back better?
Human depravity: Two reasons, not one
Human Propensity & The Watchers
The desire to sin is a condition to be freed from and healed of. Of course, this is the nature of the Cross: Freeing and then healing of the damage done in the first Adam by the second.
The idea is that Adam and Eve both had the same inherent flaws of flesh (clay and water) which have been passed down to each of us.
NOTE: The title of this section inserts my own view of demonic influence, where the "innate inclination to sin" is taken advantage of by demonic spirits. This deviates from what is in the book, where the demonic is separate from the innate sinful condition.
PROPOSITION: One possible solution to the seeming incoherence of 1-4 with 5 is found in bringing the giants into humanity as they are demigods (i.e., part human, part Watcher). Thus, the "Adam" (earth and water mix - clay) applies to the giants, making them a part of humanity. This might be especially true as the proliferate through the human gene pool, which is a tie to the DNA purity of Noah, his wife, sons, and their wives.
The next section actually provides us with this answer: That the Nephilim do in fact stem from humans would account for Genesis 6:5. See the quote of 1 Enoch below:
NOTE: The footnote below is of interest to Dr. Heiser's case, but it holds within it a nugget of truth to help guide us in being suspicious of "scholars". We ought never trust someone just because of a title. We need higher ground.
The following is written by a Qumran Essene member to others in the community.
NOTE: The DSS fragment above makes precisely the same point as two recent articles I wrote: Severed and Coupled.
- [a] — "... psalms of 2 [splendour] to the God of knowledge, the glory of the po[werful] ones ...": sons of God (Genesis 6).
- [b] — "... God of gods ...": Elohim of elohim (Psa 82)
- [c] — "... holy ones ...": ref. elohim, Watchers, sons of God, et al.
- [d] — "... realm above the powerful mighty ...": See "heaven of heavens" (Deut 10:14; 1 Kings 8:27; 2 Chron 2:6, 6:18; Neh 9:6; Psa 148:4) - ANE cosmology: Underworld/Earth/Heaven with heaven being multilayered, God in the highest heaven of heavens.
- [e] — "... before the might of his powe[r] all are terrified and scatter; they flee ...": The "all" and "they" are not men. The point is: If they are "terrified and scatter" what of men, mere clay and water? Lower than angels?
- [f] — "... And I, a Sage, declare the splendor of his radiance in order to frighten and terr[ify] 5 all the spirits of the ravaging angels ...": Why is the "Sage" trying to frighten and terrify the all the spirits of the ravaging (raping?) angels (Watchers? sons of God?)?
- [g] — "... and the bastard spirits, demons, Lilith, owls and [jackals…] ...": The writer splits the matter like Genesis 6 and others into 2 groups: Watchers and giants (now demons). cf. [f] above.
- [h] — "... and those who strike unexpectedly to lead astray the spirit of knowledge ...": The on-going work of gods and demons from the unseen realms. It is "unexpected" because of our human blindness to it.
- [i] — "... And you have been placed in the era of the rul[e of] 7 wickedness ...": The phrase "era of the rule of wickedness" noted in the "Songs for the Sabbath Sacrifice" (4Q510)1, found amongst the Dead Sea Scrolls in the Qumran caves, implies an epoch when evil forces were believed to control earthly matters. These forces could be demonic beings or malevolent human rulers who personified evil. This terminology is reflective of numerous Jewish texts of the Second Temple Period that conceptualize history as battling forces of good and evil, such as the Community Rule (1QS) which states, "For God has established the two spirits in equal measure until the determined end, and until the renewal"2. This designation also endorses the principles of an anticipated future of divine rule and righteousness, often mentioned as the End of Days or the Age to Come3. The New Testament of the Bible also references the idea of the earth being governed by the forces of evil or "this present darkness" (Ephesians 6:12) and Satan as the "god of this world" (2 Corinthians 4:4)4. Prominent expert in Ancient Near Eastern (ANE) cultures, Dr. Michael S. Heiser, explains that in biblical cosmic geography, physical place provides an arena for the conflicting interests of divine or demonic forces5.
References:
1 Songs for the Sabbath Sacrifice 4Q510, Qumran community.
2 The Community Rule 1QS, Qumran community.
3 War Scroll, 1QM, Qumran community.
4 Bible, New Testament: Ephesians 6:12; 2 Corinthians 4:4, English Standard Version (ESV).
5 Heiser, M. S. (2015). The Unseen Realm: Recovering the Supernatural Worldview of the Bible. Lexham Press. - [j] — "... and in the periods of humiliation of the sons of lig[ht] ...": The terminology of "sons of light" and "sons of darkness" is prevalent in the Second Temple Period Jewish texts, particularly in the Dead Sea Scrolls found at Khirbet Qumran (1QM, 1QS). The term "sons of light" represents the righteous who are faithful to God, embroiled in a cosmic conflict with the "sons of darkness," or the unrighteous who are allied with Belial. This dualistic concept bears similarity to the Zoroastrian religious understanding of a cosmic struggle between the god of light, Ahura Mazda, and the god of darkness, Angra Mainyu, indicating possible cultural religious exchange among ancient Near Eastern communities1. In the New Testament, similar language is adopted by Paul who frames Christians as "children of light" and non-Christians as associated with darkness (1 Thess. 5:5)2.
References:
1 Michael O. Wise, Martin Abegg Jr., and Edward Cook. The Dead Sea Scrolls: A New Translation (HarperOne, 2005), 48-49, 98-100.
2 Paul J. Achtemeier, Joel B. Green, and Marianne Meye Thompson. Introducing the New Testament: Its Literature and Theology (Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 2001), 447. - [k] — "... in the guilty periods of [those] defiled by iniquities; not for an everlasting destruction 8 [but ra]ther for the era of the humiliation of sin.": Who are those "defiled by iniquities"? Watchers? Demons? People? All of the above starting with Watchers? And what about "humiliation of sin"? Could this be included in "God's goal" or "purpose"? Loyalty test fodder?
- [l] — "... Rejoice, righteous ones, in the wonderful God. 9 My psalms are for the upright. Blank And for [… May] a[l]l those of perfect behavior praise [h]im.": Juxtaposed intent. On one side to frighten and terrify fallen Watchers and demons and on the other to lift up men who are doing the opposite of them, following after the righteousness of God (Enochian style).
CONCLUSION(S):
1. Passages like Ephesians 6:12; 2 Corinthians 4:4 tell us that Paul, Peter, Jude, John, and others were in full use of Enochian cosmic geography as the basis of what they preached, taught, and wrote. The Watcher story is fully a part of their ministry and the gospel story. It cannot be divorced from it.
2. In terms of reversal and RH, chapter 7, human sin is clearly couched in the Enochian Judaism of the time (2nd Temple and first century Christians). Jesus has come to not only staunch the bleeding caused by the Watchers and their demons (e.g., the Law at Sinai - Galatians 3:19), but to begin the repair of the damage.
PERSONAL NOTE: In chapter 6 notes and presentation, I had cast doubt on what Dr. Mike is about to present. This is what happens when one doesn't read close and careful as well as not exploring and studying prior to offering an opinion. Clearly, I was wrong!
BASIC IDEA: God puts the Law into place not as a means of salvation and dealing with human transgression towards eternal life, but as a "stop-gap" measure to slow down the on-going damage of the sins of the Watchers and the gods and demons who are pushing their destruction more and more through humanity.
- [a] — "... Paul’s view of the Law has baffled scholars such that he has been accused of self-contradiction and inconsistency. ...": Scholars have noted an apparent contradictory stance in Paul's view toward the Law in his Epistles. In some verses, he seems to reject the Law; for instance, in Romans 6:14, he asserts "For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace"¹. Conversely, in Romans 3:31, he appears supportive of the Law, stating "Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law"². Navigating these seemingly contradictory positions has been a challenge in biblical scholarship³. It’s been suggested that Paul’s contradictory positioning can be accounted for in light of his shifting audience and context⁴. Understanding this within the context of Second Temple Judaism, where law functioned as covenant, boundary marker, and sanctification tool, can shed some light on Paul’s seemingly paradoxical views⁵. Modern scholars such as Douglas Moo and N.T. Wright argue that this perceived contradiction reflects the nuanced and complex approach that Paul took to the Law⁶.
References:
¹ Paul's Letter to the Romans, Chapter 6, Verse 14, English Standard Version.
² Paul's Letter to the Romans, Chapter 3, Verse 31, English Standard Version.
³ Moo, D.J., 2007. The letters and legacy of Paul. In An introduction to the New Testament (pp. 206-211).
⁴ Wright, N.T., 1997. What Saint Paul really said: Was Paul of Tarsus the real founder of Christianity? (p. 119). Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans.
⁵ VanderKam, J.C., 2007. From Revelation to Canon: Studies in the Hebrew Bible and Second Temple Literature. Brill.
⁶ Wright, N.T., 1997. What Saint Paul really said: Was Paul of Tarsus the real founder of Christianity? (p. 119). Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans. - [b] — "... why bother at all? ...": The promise of the Savior is already solid. The Law didn't bring salvation. So, what did it bring? What was its purpose? Paul makes the case that the Law is a guide to protect the fledgling child until he reaches maturity. Protect from what? Demon influence and the gods.
- [c] — "... tantamount to rejecting Christ (Gal[atians] 5:2–4; 2:21).": Why? Because looking to doctrines other than Jesus, Cross, and indwelling Spirit is to take on doctrines of devils — even the twisting of the Law.
- [d] — "... cosmic significance of transgressions ...": The author is noting this is Paul's view, not his own, yet he is using his terms, not Paul's. Therefore, "cosmos" in terms of structure of the world (underworld, earth, heavens) and those participating in it—unseen spirits. In this case—their transgressions and their impact on humanity.
- [e] — "... etiology of evil ...": Where evil comes from. What is its source? Human only or Watchers and giants (now demons) as leaders of it in strong influence on human beings.
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There are many "Grace preachers" in the 21st century. Perhaps all of them do not know the contents of the topic we are covering. While they may have a rejection of "The Law" and their reasons for it—not having a proper Enochian context gives them an improper logical means of rejecting it (e.g., not the same as Paul) and neither do they have a proper context for understanding the notion of Grace as well (e.g., Enochian context of what grace is and when it comes - prize at the end of the race of life and living, running of the loyalty test to God in Christ).
Many contemporary theologians in the 20th and 21st centuries have sought to reconcile the seeming tension between law and grace, particularly in Christian systematics and biblical theology. The primary matter to note is how none of these views (doctrines) have an Enochian (Watchers and giants) framework or worldview within which to understand what Paul is writing regarding Law vs. Grace. None of them see the work of God as ongoing (e.g., Grace-from-the-start). They all try to paint the Work of God as compartmentalized and fragmented rather than as fluid.
Here are some of the prevailing theologies surrounding Law vs. Grace in these periods:
1. Covenant Theology: Known as "Reformed" theology, this perspective views the Law as a part of the everlasting covenant promise from God to his faithful people. Through Jesus Christ, this covenant is fulfilled, and the moral law (Ten Commandments) are upheld in grace. Prominent proponents: R. C. Sproul, J. I. Packer.
2. New Covenant Theology: This approach views the entire Old Testament Law as fulfilled and "replaced" through Christ's grace in the New Covenant. The Law is seen not as binding, but as a teacher leading people to Christ. Prominent proponents: John Piper, Tom Wells.
3. Antinomianism: Growing from radical reformations, it posits that Christians under grace are completely free from the Law. It argues that grace supercedes the Law to such an extent that believers are not bound by the moral law at all. Prominent proponents: Johannes Agricola, contemporary variants in some evangelical circles.
4. Dispensationalism: A relatively recent theology that views biblical history through "dispensations" or epochs. The Law belongs to an earlier dispensation, while grace comes in with the Church Age, leading to a sharp distinction between Law and Grace. Prominent proponents: Charles Ryrie, John Nelson Darby.
5. Orthodox and Catholic Perspective: In these traditions, grace not only fulfills but also encompasses and transforms the Law. Divine grace helps and allows people to obey God's moral law. Prominent proponents: Thomas Aquinas, the Eastern Orthodox tradition.
6. Process Theology: A liberal, modern perspective rooted in the philosophy and metaphysics. It reinterprets God's Law and Grace dynamically, emphasizing the ever-unfolding, evolving relationship between God and creation. Prominent proponents: John B. Cobb Jr., Charles Hartshorne.
7. Messianic Judaism / Hebrew Roots: These movements believe that the Law should still be respected and practiced by Christians, as Jesus (Yeshua) himself kept the Law. They argue that grace does not equal lawlessness. Prominent proponents: David Stern, Michael Brown.
8. Grace Theology (hyper/ultra-grace): This recent movement emphasizes grace to an extent that some view it as a reformed version of Antinomianism. It teaches that confessing sins and obedience to the Law is unnecessary due to the completed work of Christ. Prominent proponents: Joseph Prince.
These understandings are by no means exhaustive, and interpretations can vary within each group. Still, it demonstrates the range of theologies grappling with the complex interplay between Law and Grace.
I was taught that the Law was put in place to reveal human sin (transgression): Romans 3:20: "For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin." Can it be that the Law does both?—that is—restrains the transgressions of the Watchers and giants (now demons) being acted out in humanity and also to reveal those transgressions?
Either way—salvation is given as a prize to the race of life and living by faith in Christ and empowered to loyalty to Him. There is a promise, but the promise is upheld for those who hold the line of loyalty to Him by His power operating in them and not as mere lip-service to Him.
We know the above to be very true. It is the theology with which most of us were raised and brought up.
There is a surprising view to be found in Second Temple Judaism and first century Christians that Adam is not viewed as the source of human sin (Genesis 3), but it is the Watchers and giants (now demons).
STOP! Let the above really and truly start to sink in. If the OT lacks even a single instance of linking Genesis 3, Eve and then Adam to the overall depravity of humanity, but instead places the emphasis on Genesis 6:1-4, what are we to make of modern theologies built exclusively around Genesis 3?
What I personally now make of them is that they are misguided teachings and regurgitations of 1,700 years of church traditions taught as bible doctrine, which they are not. They then become distortions that need to be torn down and the rightful story placed rightfully back where it once stood before the eyes of the church of Jesus Christ!
After forty years, I am well-versed and well-rehearsed in seeing the "logic" of basing human depravity completely on Genesis 3 and the "Fall of Adam". It's understandable. What I am suggesting to all reading this is how much personal courage it will take to literally dump that theology over the side of the boat and pick up the original understanding and worldview of the first century, where the sins of the Watchers and later giants (now gods and demons) are the primary driver as the source of evil in the world.
NOTE: It helps answer the question of, "Why does a holy God allow evil in the world?" The answer is: The temporary allowance of evil is a tool in the loyalty test of all created free-willed creatures, both heavenly and earthly, where only the earthly are allowed grace and redemption through the power of God in Christ (Cross and indwelling Spirit of Christ formed in us).
Dr. Mike continues by pointing to NT scholar Richard Bauckman who notes the strong link from Jude 1 to 1 Enoch in terms of wandering stars, fallen stars, and Watchers bound until judgment (1 Enoch "Book of Dreams").
As already covered: 20th and 21st century Christians are only taught one source or explanation for human depravity. Doing so brings about inconsistencies and distortions of the real story (and backstory) of scripture. This is both our plight and our fight.
Through the eyes of Iranaeous:
Conclusion
What are we to conclude from all of this? There are perhaps many matters, but what are the primary thoughts?
From the view of both the OT and the NT, human sin and depravity is not a function of Genesis 3 and Adam alone. Instead, it is overshadowed in the larger context of Watchers and giants (now gods and demons who still plague the present hour). Perhaps stated another way—you are not alone in your sin, but you have help from beings at war with and in rebellion against God.
The aim of these beings is to lure you away from God in many ways. First—away from faith in Him and His promise to reverse the damage of the Watchers and their giant bastards. More pointedly—away from looking to God to do this reversal through His own self, power, Cross, and indwelling Spirit, by which our newly regenerated spirit can operate with success in the loyalty test of this era of creation in prep for the era to come (eternity).